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To everyone
11/9/2001 11:32:46 AM
Posted By: maria kostaki

Hi,
I'm a graduate journalism student at NYU writing a story on the NYTee. Would anyone be willing to let me quote them in my story? I need some users' opinions, views, etc. Please contact me at mak274@nyu.edu, or post a message here. Thanks!
NY Times on Line
11/5/2001 1:13:51 PM
Posted By: Diane Fiske

As exciting as the new electronic NY Times may be, I have been enjoying my NY TImes on Line edition for a number of months that I bookmark for daily scanning along with the BBC. WHat will happen to this free version. Will it continue? Inquiring Minds( I'm from Philly) want to know?
how viable is this?
11/5/2001 12:55:27 PM
Posted By: Dean Lockwood

I wonder how viable this is going to be for the rest of the industry (after all, what works because you're The New York Times, won't necessarily work for the rest of us).

I read in E&P speculation that these electronic editions, if they caught on, would affect current online (html) editions of newspapers. Hmm, let's think about that:

* Toss out continuously updated news, with unlimted virtual "newshole."
* Replace it with an electronically delivered verision of a limited-space, 12-hour-old snapshot of news.

That's hardly progress.

As others have mentioned, the single biggest reason for NYT to do this is that it can be counted for ABC figures, which helps their advertising rates.

It also has niche appeal for those that need quick access to the actual print product. Businesses and journalists, mainly.
Mac version coming? Riiiight.
11/1/2001 7:20:03 PM
Posted By: Shannon Donovan

NewsStand's claims of a Mac version "coming in the future" will not be believed by any Mac owner. We all know that this is standard operating procedure for all software companies: Put out a Windows version only, dump a meaningless line in the FAQ telling Mac users they haven't been forgotten and they'll get their version Real Soon Now, and then forget about the Mac forever.

Most Net-related software companies fold before ever producing even an alpha version of their Mac client. I expect NewsStand will be no different.
Who needs paper?
11/1/2001 8:15:35 AM
Posted By: Jennie Phipps

When we moved to Detroit three years ago, I canceled my NYTimes subscription and have been reading it online faithfully. The content I miss most are the ads. I like those really ugly, price-intensive ones that will never find an online home. Initially, I liked reading the classifieds online, but now that the designers have switched to the most database-intensive layout, it's impossible to scan a category. So I can't get my classified fix.

Dissatisfaction isn't going to drive me back to paper, but I wonder if in the long run these designs don't blur what's valuable about print. When CNN and Tivo get together, that's when the Times will have a real run for the money.
Content Expiration-Duly Noted
10/31/2001 9:26:50 PM
Posted By: Chip Scanlan

Thanks for the clarification, Marc. I for one would hope the Times might reconsider and follow the lead of those other partners who provide content without an expiration date. Otherwise, I feel that I'm renting the Times instead of purchasing it.
Chip
Content Expiration
10/31/2001 5:34:42 PM
Posted By: Marc Parsons

I would note that the main "Con" listed in this article, regarding the expiration of the files, is the result of the NYT's decision. Most of our content partners do not expire their content. It is the publisher's decision to have the content expire after 7 days.

marc@newsstand.com
And if your wife wanted the paper at home?
10/31/2001 3:58:32 PM
Posted By: Anne McLean

I see your point about having to buy extra copies but what if your wife wanted the paper at home? Wouldn't you end up buying an additional copy anyway. While you can share a paper version it tends to be self-limiting.
An electronic version could be "shared" among thousands of computers. I can see why the NYT would want to limit the access.
Not yet ready for Macintosh
10/31/2001 2:44:19 PM
Posted By: Chip Scanlan

Good point, David, although it sounds like the Times partner, NewsStand, Inc., is working to bring Mac users into the fold.

According to their frequently assigned questions ( FAQ)page at http://newsstand.com:

"Is there a Macintosh version of the NewsStand Reader?
Currently there is not a Macintosh compatible version of the NewsStand Reader. A Macintosh compatible version of the NewsStand Reader is planned for the future.

In the interim, if a Macintosh PC has a Windows emulator software such as Connectix Virtual PC 4 installed on it, it may be possible to use the NewsStand Reader.

NOTE: The use of the NewsStand Reader via a Windows emulator on a Macintosh is NOT a supported configuration."
It would be great but...
10/31/2001 2:07:41 PM
Posted By: David Cohen

I'd subscribe to the electronic edition. I can't get home delivery where I live. But the system that the Times is using doesn't support Macintosh. Other publications do.
Encouranged by so many responses
10/31/2001 1:23:27 PM
Posted By: John Honarvar

Thought it was a great observation of the values of electronic option.
Yes to electronic news
10/31/2001 12:50:33 PM
Posted By: Happy User

Scanlon, I agree with you. I am recent subscriber to the electronic version of NYT. Being able to maintain the same reading experience as the physical paper is terrific. I can read the paper this way much faster than the on line website. I'll gladly pay the price, my time is more important. Plus this solution is portable on my laptop and is key word searchable.
Thanks for covering this innovative approach.
i'll stick to the online edition
10/31/2001 9:49:10 AM
Posted By: sandy goodman

thanks, scanlan, but i'll stick to the online edition of the times. it saves me hundreds of dollars and i can take the minor inconveniences. i used to subscribe to the print
edition, but a dollar or so a day is a lot of money, and the times is a lot of paper, especially when you live in another city as i do and really need to get
the local newspaper. i must admit, though, that i do sometimes feel guilty about the freebie. but i'll take it as long as it lasts.



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